298: Using Neuroscience to Heal with Adalina East


Adalina East, M.S., is an international lecturer, mental health expert, multi-dimensional mentor and leadership coach, working with a global clientele to recover from trauma and bring forth innovative methods of healing and channeling.

Founder of Transformational Healing, Adalina draws upon her neuroscience and counseling backgrounds, as well as her spiritual gifts to lead others through a spirit-driven process to retrain their brains, creating profound change. Adalina’s decade long career with the United Nations and other humanitarian aid organizations brought her to serve thousands of people in eight countries to overcome trauma and lead others to do the same.

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Welcome to the Art of Living big podcast. My name is Betsy pake. I’m an author, a speaker and a trainer of NLP and hypnotherapy. And I’m focused on helping you understand and design your life with the power of the subconscious. This podcast is designed to help you think differently about what could be possible for your life. Now, let’s go live big Hello, everyone. Hi fellow adventurers. Welcome to the show today. I have a guest today and I’m I’m so excited. I’m so excited. I feel like I’m a little giddy. Don’t you think I am. Right. We’ve been chatting and I’m like so excited. So I want you to meet my friend Adelina east. Hi, Adelina. Hi, thank

you so much for having me, Betsy,

I’m excited to have you here. Because I feel like, well, I completely stocked your Instagram. I feel like we’re about to be best friends. And and I want to, I want you to tell everybody a little bit about yourself, and what you do, and then people will know why I’m so excited.

Okay, so my name is Adelina East. And I created a transformational healing process. And I trademarked it actually, my background is in neuroscience research and in counseling, I worked for the United Nations and for lots of different humanitarian aid organizations. And after years of counseling people, and using all of the standard techniques, I felt like we weren’t really getting to the crux of the issue. And so I started to do a lot of work on myself, I went through a a period of chronic pain and really debilitating illness. And through that process, I created transformational healing. And what the process is, is a combination of neuroscience and counseling. So we use certain neuroscience back techniques to rewrite over old memories that are traumatizing. And then I also work with spirit guides. And so the spirit guides send through certain tones and hand positions for us to use in order to really let go of that old traumatic memory and welcome in the new one.

I love it. Now everybody’s like, Oh, I get it, why she’s so excited. Okay, so this is really cool. So talk to me a little bit about your process, like, tell me, actually, here’s where I want to start, I want to talk about you being in chronic pain. And the reason I want to talk about that is because I think so many times those of us and people that are listening probably have done this too, or they are in it right now. Where something awful is happening. And we think this is awful. Yeah. But the truth is, is that my belief is that everything is working for us. We might not see it when we’re in the middle of it. But in your instance, chronic pain brought you to this awareness of this healing modality. So can you tell us a little bit about that?

Sure. I love reading your story as well. But see,

I saw things crossover. Yeah, yeah, totally.

I had worked overseas for many years. And of course, that takes a toll on your body. When I stopped working overseas, and I moved to UN headquarters in New York, I started to have roving pains. So first, I would sprain an ankle. Then suddenly, after a retreat that we had, I had typed a lot at the retreat that my wrists were sprained. And all of these things just kept happening. And we couldn’t really figure out what was going on. What was actually going on was that I had really deeply, deeply rooted trauma. And in the trauma world, we talk about the different kinds of trauma. So there was vicarious trauma from all of the people that I had counseled overseas, and all of the stories that I had heard and that kind of energy being absorbed into me. But then I also had traumas of my own lots of early childhood stuff. And I had gone through a great deal of therapy. Like most New Yorkers, I have a therapist practically from birth. It hadn’t really made a dent. And so after seeing 27 doctors and being diagnosed with everything from MS to rheumatoid arthritis, I just had to sit with myself and say, I know none of these things are true, like the blood work is coming in. And none of these things are what the problem is, right? And so I started to really examine what was actually going on. I have this amazing grandmother who sadly passed this year, but she was a Native American healer and she had taught me so many things about healing and working with herbs and working with my guides when I was little. And so I started doing some more of those things to try to get out of chronic pain. All the while the pain had really progressed to the point that I couldn’t feel my feet sometimes. But sometimes it was just very sharp nerve pain, I’d get roving pains in my back and my elbows. It was muscular and nerve and just every kind of pain you could imagine. And so I was just desperate to get out of pain. And I truly believe in what you said that these things happen for a purpose, there is a larger purpose, it’s not just that we’re meant to be in pain all the time, it’s the universe trying to guide us in a different direction. And what I learned from that whole experience was that the universe was guiding me away from humanitarian aid work for a while, I still have a few NGOs that I support, and that I’m on the board with. But mostly, what I learned was that all of this was guiding me to setting up my own private practice and to using transformational healing with other people to also help them with their stories of chronic pain of trauma of all of these kinds of things. Yeah,

yeah, that’s so good, like so good. You were able to take this like really awful thing and figure it out for yourself. So then when you started doing the methodology on yourself, you started healing and just feeling better. Yeah,

I started feeling so much better so quickly that it was a little bit unnerving to people,

right? Yes. Yeah. disorienting. Yes. Yeah.

They couldn’t believe that I had found a way to, like, within three weeks, get up out of my wheelchair and start walking again. Yeah, yeah. That last doctor that I had gotten to see who was convinced this was Ms. Finally had to say, Okay, it’s probably not Ms. We need right looking, I did have Lyme disease, a really bad case of Lyme disease that I had probably had since I was a child. And they did have parasites and a lot of other medical things, one of which I still deal with now in my current reality, right? Yeah. But I have learned so many tools of how to work with this and how to, you know, be able to be out in the world again, and be able to live my life in the way that I want to live it.

Yeah, I like that so much. You know, it reminds me a little bit of Dr. Joe Dispenza. You’re familiar with him? I’m sure. Right. So I’m a big fan of big Dr. Joe fan. And you know that his origin story is really like he was to try it was, I don’t know if he was a triathlete. But he was a triathlete in the hobby sense, I think, and I was hit by a car, and that’s in that trauma in the I have to heal this because I can’t rely on what the doctors are telling me, then, you know, created this whole other way for people to heal and get in touch with themselves. So I think that that’s just so powerful. And so cool. I see that reflected in that work, too. You know, one of the things that you said was that it happened so fast. I think that and I want to talk I know we have a commonality in terms of NLP. But I want to talk a little bit because I think that in our 3d world, we have this idea that things have to take a certain amount of time. Yeah. And, and, you know, sometimes there’s a physical element to it that does. And it doesn’t mean it has to take as long as we thought, right. And I think that people really struggle with that idea. Sometimes when I work with people, and I even noticed this in myself, will make a big shift. And they’ll say, Hang on, I’m so dizzy. Yeah, like, that’s how it shows up. Right? It’s like, I’m so dizzy. And it’s like your unconscious mind trying to organize this new version of reality. So did you notice that kind of like, disorientation for yourself? I know other people were surprised. But did you see that too?

Yes. And I have to say I still see it to this day. Yeah. So I think a part of that whole shift of using NLP, it really depends on the practitioner, which I’m sure you agree with. But it depends on the way the practitioner uses it. So in my experience, when I’m using NLP on myself, when I’m rewriting those old memories into new, I go into such a deep brain way that I’m not sure if I’m here in the 3d world, or if I’m up with my guide somewhere. And so when I open my eyes after a session, I am very dizzy for probably 20 minutes or so afterwards. Yeah. And it’s, you know, this is actually a neuroscientific process when we are unglued, so to speak from our normal third dimensional reality, our minds are able to expand into that space where healing is limitless. Yeah. STS. Yes. And so when we come back down, it actually is a case of vertigo, like, we’re not sure if we’re up or down. And you know, we’re not sure of our place in space anymore, right? So we can get those vertigo type symptoms as we come back into a normal brainwave state,

right, and then discovering that the reality that you had before is a little bit different. You know, you mentioned like, when I do this work on myself, I always tell my clients, like I do this work on myself all the time. Like, I’m not just doing it with them and teaching it like, Yeah, I’m like, doing it. You know, the other night, my husband and I got in bed, and we were reading, and I was reading a book that made me go weak, because that’s not how I think. And so I paused. It’s called riches, fuck riches. Fuck. And, you know, I’ve done so much like any NLP practitioner, right? I’ve done so much work on myself. But some of the ways she was wording things I was like, is that true? And then if that when did I decide that wasn’t true? And so I just paused and did some of the work. And my husband, I don’t know, 15 minutes later, he was like, Well, when you were meditating, I wasn’t meditating. I was I was three. In fact, when I was three years old, you know what I mean? Like, back into I was time traveling at the time. But it is so fascinating. And then that like Dizzy wave, and I will tell you that since that particular episode of doing that work, I am different. I’m like saying things different. I’m realizing I’m showing up different. Today, one of my clients said to me, you seem so different. And I was like, oh, because I had this awareness, you know, so it is really fascinating. So, so when you do your stuff, when you do your work, you also pull in your guides. Yes, yes. And can you talk to me a little bit about that, and what that process looks like? Yes. So

I feel really confident that when you were having that moment of reading rich as fuck, and being three years old again, and going through those memories, you were also working with the guides. Yeah. Because you’re in and you would travel time and space. Yes, yes. Yep. Yep. And so I think that’s something our guides do really, really well as help us expand ourselves out to be able to travel through time and space to be able to heal those older memories. Yeah. But the way that I came to working with my spirit guides had nothing to do with NLP. I was really little. I used to take walks with my grandmother in Montana, she had a cabin there. And we used to walk out in the field and walk through streams. And it was just this really kind of idyllic, beautiful place. And I would watch her talk to different things as we pass them, like talk to the plants talk to the trees, we would store all of our things for meals in this creek because it was cold, we didn’t have a refrigerator. And so she talked to the food as we took it out of the creek. And we started to chat about why she was talking to these seemingly an inanimate objects and inanimate plants. And she just described it to me is like everything has a life. Everything has a conscience. And science may not have caught up with this yet, but that’s where I exist. And so her guides were very nature based. And then she also had star collectives, which is something that I have been using for years now. And so some of my guides are from the Judeo Christian background, some are from Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam. And then some are also nature bearing beings. I work with a lot of people who are working to develop their own gifts, their own spiritual and intuitive gifts of channeling their guides and healing and all of that kind of fun stuff, astrology, human design. And I firmly believe that we all have spirit guides that we’re all working with them all the time, we just might not know who they are or what they are.

Yeah, so we can always we can always ask. My friend Trish was on episode 208. Everybody knows her now is Trish episode 208. That’s how that’s her full name. And you too will have a new name. So it is complete. But one of the things she says is just ask your guides, or anytime I message her anything, she’ll say, Oh, I hoped you think your guides can I know I have done anything. But yeah, it’s like such a good reminder. And I was just saying that to my daughter. She has been messaging me she’s in college and she said last night I want to be more spiritual. And I said just ask your guides. I know I loved that too. I was very excited. I was oh, yes, yeah, right. But I was like, just ask your guides, they’ll show you what to do next. Like they’ll show you what is path is to take, you know, and so she said she would and then later this afternoon, so that was yesterday, later this afternoon, I got a message from her. And she said, there was some Buddhist introduction to Buddhism event thing. She was like, I want to go. And I was like, oh, thank your guides, right for bringing it into your awareness. So I love that a lot. So tell me a little bit more, if you will, about like, when you you said star, would you come to her car collective? Yeah. So Tom, can you tell me a little bit about that, or

so? In my grandmother’s tradition, she was Cherokee. And so the Cherokee had a very special relationship with this certain star collective called the Pleiadians. And you can read, I mean, there’s books and books about this. I feel like I’ve heard this. Yeah, yeah. And so you can reach out to the Pleiadians, when you need help with something. It’s not that they are here in 3d worlds, but they are always with us. And they’re always kind of observing and giving us a hand. So

with everybody or with you, because of your ancestry.

I believe that every single person has guides, not everyone’s guides or the Pleiadians. Gotcha. Okay. Right. Yeah, I’ve found that a lot of the people and especially I would say lately, a lot of the women that I’m working with, have some PLEIADIAN CONNECTION, whether it’s like seven or eight generations back,

which is probably why they’re drawn to you. Right.

I agree. I think we’re always drawn to the right healer. Yes. And someone who exhibits qualities that we also possess.

Right, right. Yes, yes.

And so the Pleiadians are very gentle healers, they work with you a lot while you sleep. I’ve taken many multi-dimensional trips with them and my dreams, and they they take me to different places to heal different parts of my psyche and my stuff. Because, ya know, I am a healer. We all have stuff. Right? Right. No one on this earth who’s totally all set? Yeah. And so the Pleiadians bring through a really gentle healing. They often show up in synchronicities. So what happened with your daughter was that she said she wanted to be more spiritual. And then here we go, here’s a Buddhist event that I can go to. Yeah, that sounds very pleasing to Me. Going to cities and helping women that way, right. But I also channel The Pleiadians. I hear them. I hear their voice, they usually channel through as a one collective. And so it’s not just one individual guide that I’m working with. It’s a whole group of them.

Yeah. And they have incredible.

They have incredible experience, let’s say with herbal medicine. So because they’re their closest connection to human beings, historically was with the Native Americans. They’re used to finding things from the earth and finding things from the land that’s available to help heal you. And so oftentimes, I’ll ask the Pleiadians what’s happening within me like if I have a headache or something, and they’ll show me it kind of looks like a movie, in my mind’s eye and all kind of see the things that led up to that headache. Say, whoa, okay. All right. I need to slow down a little bit. I need to drink some water. I need to take a nap. Whatever the case may be. Yeah. And so for me, the guides always come through in the form of Claire audience, I can actually hear them. But then when I’m seeing the movie, go across my my mind’s eye that’s more clairvoyance. Okay. Yeah. But everyone hears from them differently. It sounds like your daughter has the gift of seeing synchronicities.

Yeah. Yeah. It was cool. Yeah. So anybody who has listened to the podcast is going to be like, Oh my god, Betsy, we’ve heard this story a million times, but I have a fun little synchronicities story. Oh, tell me. Have you been thinking about becoming a coach, but you’re not sure where to start? Are you already a coach or a therapist and you really want new ways to help your clients transform? I want to invite you into the alchemy Institute. It’s a place where we create world class, board certified coaches, trained in nlp hypnosis, deep streaming EFT and time techniques. With this knowledge, you can upgrade your business and create your life. Go at your own pace with our on demand trainings, or attend one of our live events. You can get more information at Betsy pake.com or head straight to the academy at V alchemy institute.co. I’ll see you there. So I was at the beach in January and I heard gotten there to work for the month just to be in someplace different. But I was struggling at that time. And I had been struggling for many months. And I had talked, I’ve talked about it on the show that it was my time of expansion. I feel like I’ve come through like a portal and like woohoo, like, ya know, like, definitely my energy is rhythm. But at that time, really struggling and I didn’t know what was next. You know, sometimes you get that feeling where like, I don’t know what’s next. I want to be inspired. I want to be excited and happy. And I really wasn’t feeling a lot of that. And so one night, because I was there by myself for a month, there was a lot of time to overthink everything. I was sitting in bed on the tick tock as one does. Yeah. And I saw this tick tock of this guy that was in Finland, snowshoeing, with the northern lights going overhead. And I mean, it was, and the music playing, you know what I mean? It was so amazing. And I was like, I started crying. I watched it like 20 times. I was like that, I want that. It was the, like, full life fullest kind of feeling. Yeah. The next day. I’m on Facebook. And then in one of my entrepreneurial groups, and I see this post that someone’s like, a group of us are going to Iceland to see the northern lights for 25 days or something like that. Does anybody want to go? There’s one spot left? Yeah, really? Yeah. I was like, Yes, I immediately signed up. I left like two and a half weeks later, I spent from mid February to mid March in Iceland, changed my life, I had to have that experience. raised my vibration gave me so much awareness. It was not an easy trip. There wasn’t easy for lots of reasons. But it’s what caused my expansion. So I tell you that whole story, because I feel I always felt like that was like a super alignment like that. I would place the order and then the next day, get the order filled. Right. Like that’s some kind of speed.

Yeah, yeah, I think you have a lot of guides that are on your side. Looking out. As you were telling that, can I May I share with you what I was? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So as you were telling that story, you know, your your energy is open to me, I always ask for permission. But yeah, the guides kind of taken invitation to be on someone’s podcast as permission. So they start bringing things in. Yeah. What I was seeing in my mind’s eye was that you have this collection of ancient grandmothers. So a lot of women particularly work with the ancient grandmothers have their own ancestry? Yeah, their own genetic line, as well as the genetic lines of their children. If you know, because, yes, your child has your, your partner’s genetics, too. Yeah. And so the ancient grandmothers were coming in and saying, Okay, there’s very strong Jupiter energy in her chart right now. And she’s ready for expansion. We need to give her this opportunity so that she can grow. And they just sort of presented they plopped it in your lap, like, Okay, you’re going to Iceland?

Yeah. Yes, totally. And it felt like such a, like I said, it wasn’t not easy. And I shared that part. Because, you know, like, when you were talking about when you were sick, like it wasn’t easy, but there was an expansion in there. So, yeah, really fascinating. So anyway, I love all of this. You know, when you talked about, um, Claire audience, Claire, tell me, the Claire’s

where audiences when you can hear the guides speaking to Okay, clairvoyance is when you can see the messages that they’re giving you. So I see things like a movie, but some people see things in words. Yeah. So for example, one of the women who’s mentoring with me right now. She’s an incredible healer. I’m so excited for her to start putting herself out there. But we’re still in the process. Yeah. When she channels her guides, she sees the words in like a very, yeah, yeah, number. So she doesn’t get like the full story in the same way that I do. But she’ll see the most important words, and then she can kind of put the story together. Yes. Yeah. So clairvoyance can take a lot of different forms, also, yeah, yeah. And then there’s Claire cognizance, which I also have, but I work with that a lot less that’s where you can read other people’s thoughts and their process. Okay, yeah, that is reserved for sessions where I asked for permission just because when I first started exploring my gifts, I was having it on the subway and it was not great. You sound like my

friend Trish. My friend. Trish is always like, Oh my God, never take me to New Orleans. You know what I mean? Like, it’s like, it’s so much.

It is so much but over time you learn and I’m sure Trish has learned this too. Over time you learn how to set boundaries. Yeah. And so you say to your guides, okay, I’m now going to the grocery store. I am closed for business. All right, yeah, this this morning, you said go to the grocery store around 11 o’clock. I don’t know why I’m sure there’s going to be some kind of healing happening. And I’m open for that. But I’m closed in terms of other people’s thoughts and feelings because it’s a little ik first of all, right? Thoughts and feelings. Plus, it’s not my role to walk around the world and read everyone’s thoughts and feelings and to send the guides to them to heal them. It’s really about lasting mission,

right and exhausting energetically for you? Absolutely.

It certainly was a major part of my complete physical meltdown was was running in a city is tightly packed as New York subway to and from work every day and feeling all the pain of all of the people around me.

Yeah. Yeah,

I do not wish it on anyone.

You know it when you’re saying that? It’s, it makes me wonder, I think so many. Let me say it this way. I think there’s a lot of people that don’t subscribe to what we’re talking about. They haven’t either they haven’t been exposed to it, or they’re not into it or whatever. But they still experience it. Because just because you don’t acknowledge it or don’t know it has a name doesn’t mean it doesn’t. It’s not happening to you. And I think there’s a lot of jobs that are really difficult, you know, that you don’t realize how much you’re taking on. I know, attorneys. It’s like, one of the highest suicide rates in any occupation. My husband is District Attorney, Assistant District Attorney here. Yeah. And, and sometimes the things that he says, I can understand how it could be really overwhelming and hard to like, shut that off. At the end of the day, like you see a lot of awful things and hear the details of a lot of awful things. And I think that sometimes people in jobs where they may not subscribe to this kind of talk that we’re having, don’t realize how much that’s impacting them. So I’m curious if people are listening. And maybe this is a new thought or a new idea. Do you have like methods or things people can do to kind of like, clear themselves of the junk from the day so that they don’t have to have a glass of wine? Right? Or online shop as some people do. I don’t know who those people are.

I’m an Etsy shopper to be clear, right? Yeah. I just could spend hours on there. I have way too much jewelry. And it’s not like you know, fine jewelry or any right. Yes, but handmade? Totally. Yeah. It’s my weakness. I love it. For example, right? Yeah. So I Yes. So what I It’s harder when they don’t subscribe to this form of thought, right? Because we can recommend things for them. But if they’re like, oh, that’s all hooey, then of course, the one is going to have to come out. Yeah. But if you can expand yourself enough to realize that even if you don’t fully believe in it, it might be happening to you and just try this one quick practice with me. So close your eyes, and put one hand on your heart. We’re not going to do anything scary here. Don’t worry. And

I’m not worried I do all this.

I know you’re not worried. If there any listeners who don’t quite subscribe, just put your hand on your heart and think about what today has affected you. Did you wake up late? Was there not enough coffee? Was there somebody on your drive to work that really upset you? Did you hear a story from a friend yesterday, that’s really needling, you just take a minute and tune in to what that thing is. Let’s just start with one thing at a time. Because we’re just beginning here. And think of that thing, and then say this is not mine. And take your hand, push it away from your heart and push that thing up towards the ceiling. In my belief system, we’re releasing this to source energy to take from us. And then again, this is not mine. And then a third time, this is not mine. And as you do that your guides are coming forward sources coming forward to really take that stress and that anguish of what you experience today away from you. Because a lot of times what we are feeling is not ours. I’m sure your husband hears just like my sister’s a lawyer also, by the way, she’s an ADA, and now she works for a nonprofit. Yeah, but they just hear the worst stories and I’m no worse if they are super protected. And they’re doing all of the right things a little that gets into your heart. Yes, yeah. And then it can start turning into physical pain. Right and so we want to make sure it doesn’t happen. So I’m a fan of doing this is not mine multiple times a day.

Yeah, that’s a really good one. Yeah, I was just gonna say I feel like that can kind of be done. Like, even if you’re out and about, you know what I mean? Like it’s kind of like, it’s not some big thing you could do it very discreetly, or even be thinking it and kind of like, batting the energy away. Yeah.

Yeah. And like, if you can’t close your eyes this is I mean, I pretty much have no shame about this anymore. Yeah, yeah, me too. I’ve got all of that mindset work. I’m laughing but I’m doing Hey, we get a learning opportunity. Yes, yeah. But if you’re really in a situation like you’re about to speak to a roomful of hundreds of people, which has happened to me, I just keep my eyes open and picture my hand on my heart. I think so. Yeah, of course. And I’ve say in my mind, this is not mine three times. Yes.

I like that. Let it go. Really good. That’s really good. I like that one. I do one with my clients where you imagine a hula hoop, you’re standing in the middle of a hula hoop and almost like the hula hoop has cheese cloth in it so that there’s a drag to it right? As you pull it up, pull it up to your knees. And then you can notice how below your knees feel so much later, and pull it up to your waist and it collects all the energy that’s not yours. And then you pull it up over your head and just throw it off. It’s something I started doing when my daughter was sick when she was a teenager. For service. She was sick for several years. And I was so heavy, you know what I mean? It was just so overwhelming that I would do that hula hoop thing over and over again. It helped me so much. So I always try and teach that too. Yeah, that’s, I like that. This is not mine. So okay, so let’s count I’m where I’m not really shifting gears, but I want to talk. So I’m one of the things in the morning that I do. I’ve always called it. I’ve called it deep streaming. It’s basically where I remember being a little kid and telling my mother, I can shut my mind off. And my mom’s I remember my mom saying, but that’s good. A lot of adults can’t do that. Keep practicing. But like, she was like, what you went away? Did she died are you about but but I imagined almost like the voice. That is Betsy going into another room and shutting the door. And when I imagine that I get a really different perspective on the Betsy voice. She seems really she’s very excited. Like, it seems very overwhelming. Do you know any mean? Like, shut the door? Yeah. And then I just ask that inner part of me. What do I need to know today? And then I get it. Sometimes it’ll be like a symbol that means something. But this is how I describe it is that I feel the words. So I don’t see the words and I don’t hear the words, but I

feel them. That’s Clairsentience by the way.

Oh, okay. That was gonna be my question. Claire. Sentient sentient machines. Okay, so you feel

what like, give me an example. Can you give me an example.

So the other day, I asked what I need to know. And I got a picture of a flower. And I felt this flower is, is growing as big as it can, even though its soil isn’t very good. It’s not wishing it had different soil. Yeah, it’s just growing as big as it can in the soil it has. And so it was a picture of the flower, but then unknowing of what I was supposed to know about the soil. Like what was unique about that picture?

Does that mean that’s really cool. So I mean, I’ve never heard of a better selling point for NLP, right? Like, yes, yeah. It’s born into the soil we’re born into, we’re born into families we’re born into, and then we do the best that we can with that soil. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn’t do you any good to look and see what other flowers are planted in? No. Oh, it does make you mad. Yeah.

And so as you’re having this clear, sentient vision of what you need to know, today, do you have like, does it give you like an action step like Okay, now that we see that, you know, I’m doing the best that I can with the soil that I have. What’s my next step?

No, it’s always I typically will go back and forth and ask a lot of questions. So actually, how I do it is I put my hands on a typewriter or not typewriter, that’s how old I am. I had a typewriter as I turn on my Sony tape recorder, but the keyboard and I shut my and I shut my eyes, and I just type even though usually I only will feel one word at a time, so I don’t know where it’s going or what’s happening. And I just type the word that I feel and then I ask questions, and then I type the word that I feel and so um, and usually just the awareness shifts me into feeling something different. Yeah. Right. So cool. Yeah, it’s it is very cool. And I feel like it’s replicatable. So I do this with my clients, I’ll have them shot, put their other, put their voice into the other room and then ask questions. And it’s something I teach inside my certification too. But I think that that gives you the ability to take the drama, out of decisions, right to take lightly Yes, because our stories just screw us up.

I agree so much, one of the. So I’m releasing a new class next week, and it’s called the practical channel. And it’s a really quick User’s Guide to learn how to channel one of the methods that we use is really similar to what you’re describing. So you can tune into your guides, I always say guides for my highest and best good, please communicate with me, because we only want to work with the guides of the light. There are amazing practitioners who work with the guides of the dark side, but it’s not my personal practice. Yeah. So we first asked for the guides for our highest and best good to come communicate with us. And then I asked them to sit down and either sit down tight, the the eye wants to typewriter down at the keyboard and just start writing or get out of pen and paper. My typing speed is really fast. And I find that when I try to type it out, it’s just mayhem. But if I get out pen and paper, my brain can slow down enough to really write whatever the guides are telling me. Yeah. And I think that’s so similar to your practice, because then you’re able to get into it. First of all your brainwaves change, anger and overwhelm mode. Yep. And then you can also hear what really is important what I Yeah, most important thing, because your guides or your intuition or whatever is really speaking through your hands at that point, you don’t have to get so wrapped up in your head about it.

Right. I almost feel like it can just bypass me altogether. Yes, come right to the keyboard, you know, right. Yeah. Source. So tell tell us a little bit more about how people could work with you or what you do. And kind of like how that could work. One thing I because I have, like I said fully stocked every area of your life

right, we have stuff on the internet for people to find, right? So on your website, it said, I’m the alchemy member or monthly. Like it’s like a channeling. So I I used to have through COVID. I did it through COVID, I had something called the alchemy collective, which was a monthly membership. So I feel like we’re aligned with that. So can you tell us a little bit about how people could work with you and kind of what that would look like and and what you offer? Sure.

So there are lots of different ways. Everything I I give away a lot of free content on my podcast, it’s called Cosmic leadership. And I’m hoping to have you there very soon. And yeah. And that, you know, I’ve been recording since the pandemic started. So there are lots of old solo episodes with different meditations and activations and many transformational healings, all the way back to I think, February 2020. And that’s free. And then I also have new courses coming out next week. One is called the practical channel. And that will be $77. And that’s a way it’s a quick guide to learning how to channel. Okay, yeah. And then the alchemists membership is once a month, I channel a message for the group. And we sit together at an appointed time over zoom, and the guides just channel through a message. There’s always a transformation and healing in there. Yeah, there’s also a greater message about the theme of that month, let’s say, Yeah,

I love that. That’s really,

it’s really so much fun. And then I have other digital courses that people can check out fully channeled courses. But the thing that I love the most and that I’m always the most excited about is the private sessions because that’s where we get to really dig in. So I do one on one transformational sets of 10 transformational healing sessions with people and I just returned to doing them in person, which that’s the it’s like, My soul is I feel so

good, you know? Yeah, yeah.

So much. And through those sessions, a lot of those people decide to join my mentorship program, which is also one on one to tap into their own spiritual gifts and what they feel like their purpose is here to do so I work with everybody from doctors, lawyers. Lots of people in the medical community which I always love. Yes. It would be great to have some doctors who are working with their guides too.

Right? Who are in open to all of that, too. Yeah, that’s awesome.

Yeah. And then people who, you know, yoga teachers, people who just know that they have a certain healing gift and they want to figure out what it is and yeah, get more in touch.

I love that. That’s really awesome. Cool. So everybody can find you like a start over on Instagram. What’s your handle on Instagram?

It’s just my name Adelina east and I spell my name a little differently. It’s a Da Li n e m sorry, l i n a. And my last name is East like the direction. Okay,

perfect. And then your website is the same. Is that right? Same doc? Yeah. Um, yeah. Okay, cool. I always say when people are like, what’s your website? Where

can people find you? I’m like, Betsy, pake. You know, I’m not super creative when it comes to like, I have the fancy name. But you can find me just by searching my name. So yeah, so we could find you just by Googling you as well. Easily?

And if, if I may? Yeah, I would love to give your listeners a free gift. Absolutely. Yeah. There’s a place on my website where you can sign up for my newsletter. And when you do you receive meditation to reach the upper dimensions of the Universe. And people have had such great things to say about that meditation. A lot of people start channeling right away just because they’re up there. And they’re feeling their guides. It’s quite beautiful.

So good. All right. Awesome. So we can just find that right on your website. Yes. I can also send you a link to include in the okay in the show notes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much for being here. This was so fun. I love you so much. And I’m so happy you came on my show.

I love you so much to thank you for everything you put out into the world, Betsy.

Oh, thank you. Hey, thanks so much for listening to today’s show. And thank you for sharing the show with your friends. I love when you guys do that. I appreciate it so much. And thank you for leaving me a review on iTunes. I know that it matters because when I go to find a podcast, I always look to see what the reviews are. So it really means a lot to me that you take a minute to like figure out how to even make that happen. Now, if you want to find me find me on social media, I’m usually on Instagram, starting out on Tik Tok. It’s just my name. Betsy pake, and that’s my website to Betsy pake.com. And you can find out all about the work that I do. having me speak for an event that you might be hoping to plan or getting trained inside my alchemy Institute. But to make it really easy, if you want me just shoot me a DM, shoot me a direct message on Instagram and I will be at your service. Thanks again for listening. And I will see you all next week.


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Hi I’m Betsy and I’m a subconscious change expert.
By day you can find me digging deep into the unconscious beliefs and identity of my clients so they can move past self-sabotage and lack of confidence and gain traction in their career and life.